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Guy Rogers
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IF fracking applicants gets the go-ahead in the Karoo, South Africa’s arid heartland faces the prospect of hundreds of thousands of wells using trillions of litres of water, a lawyer representing the anti-fracking lobby said yesterday. Graaff-Reinet attorney Derek Light, who is representing some 250 landowners, individuals and interest groups said information from the US environmental protection agency on the fracking industry there indicates up to 80000 wells could be sunk in a 30000ha zone.
“We are looking at about 230000ha in our applications and, if the same density approach is pursued - that could mean 720000 wells. We know each well uses about 20-million litres of water, so that adds up to 14.4-trillion litres of water that could be needed here.”
Information from the fracking industry itself is that the chemicals used in the water comprise about half a per cent of the water volume but that still means about 7.2-billion litres of chemicals could be discharged into the Karoo’s soils, he noted.
Explaining the administrative process around the gas exploration applications from the three different companies, Light said the one from Bundu was the furthest advanced.
Bundu has applied to explore for gas in a 30000ha area south of Graaff-Reinet. Public comment has been submitted and included in their environmental management plan (EMP) and the plan has been submitted to the Petroleum Agency of South Africa (Pasa). The agency must now consider it and then submit it with their recommendation to Energy Minister Dipuo Peters.
Falcon has applied to explore in a 100000ha zone from Ceres in the west to Aberdeen in the east. Falcon’s public participation period closed on Wednesday. Comment was submitted in time and the company must now incorporate this into their EMP for submission to the agency.
Shell has applied to explore in an area of 95000ha from Dordrecht in the east to Sutherland in the west. Shell has said it expects a decision on its application by August - but its EMP preparation process is least advanced. The company’s initial round of public consultation meetings has just finished, and the company must now incorporate this comment in their draft EMP.
Shell has committed itself to accepting further comments and questions, however, and it will make the draft available for further comment before finalising the management plan.
Light said that besides concerns related directly to fracking - in which the water and fracking chemicals are pumped at great velocity down a pipe to fracture shale rock and free trapped gas far beneath the surface of the Earth - he and his clients are also concerned about the administrative and evaluation process.
Fundamental rights, enshrined in the SA constitution - to development that does not degrade the environment, and to administrative justice that is lawful and reasonable - are being tested, he said.
“They are asking us to comment, yet information is limited, and detail is being refused.”
Fracking for gas has not been used in South Africa before and in the US a probe has now been launched which will take four years, he said.
“Despite this situation, we are given just 30 days to understand what is being proposed, to collect our own specialist comment and to make our submissions.”
Besides not being fair to the interested and affected parties, the timeframes and complexity of the issues also impacts on the environmental consultants to the applicant companies, he said.
“We are hearing that they ‘did their best’ within the 120 days allocated to them to contact all the property owners. But that is not good enough. A number who were left out are now struggling to become incorporated in the process.”
The magnitude of the combined application is such that Pasa should be compelled to to act in defence of citizens and these rights, he said.
“The total carbon footprint of the applications takes up 15% of the land surface of this country.
“We need a moratorium to allow the energy minister to do what she is able to do which is appoint a panel which will in turn appoint the necessary scientific advisors, to properly investigate fracking, before any decisions are taken on the applications.”
Light said even if production demanded a whole new evaluation process, just granting exploration rights could spell doom for Karoo property values.
“With one stroke of that pen, if it is signed, the marketability and security and commercial value of properties will plummet.”
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Elderly trampled in grant payout chaosTHE change-over of the grant payout system to a new service provider caused pandemonium at the West End Community Centre in Port Elizabeth yesterday.
Woman slapped in scuffle as ANC tensions escalate in BayAN ANC branch meeting in Nelson Mandela Bay turned ugly yesterday when tempers flared between two opposing factions, resulting in a male leader slapping a woman colleague while her group was being escorted out of the hall by regional secretary Zandisile Qupe.
St Albans Prison inmates to be paid damagesTHE Department of Correctional Services has agreed to pay damages to two long-term prisoners who were mistakenly beaten up by warders following an alleged hostage situation at St Albans Prison two years ago.
Bird flu ban costs ostrich industry R108-million a monthA NEW positive test for the H5N2 Avian flu virus in the Klein Karoo has dashed the beleaguered industry’s hopes to resume trade this month with South Africa’s biggest ostrich export market, the European Union.
Phantom water extractor caught in the actWHO is taking our wetland water? The answer seemed clear yesterday (February 29 2012) when a photograph was taken of the culprit, in the act, sucking water from the Walmer, Victoria Drive, corner vlei.
Cosatu seeks non-violent protestsA campaign will be developed to educate workers on staging violence-free protests, Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi said on Thursday (01/03/2012).
Mental patient killed in fight in Fort BeaufortA psychiatric patient was killed on Thursday (01/03/2012) in Fort Beaufort apparently during a fight with another patient, an Eastern Cape official said.
Malema may fight on for months but chances bleakJulius Malema may take his battle with the ANC leadership all the way to the party’s conference in Mangaung, but the youth league’s defiance of President Jacob Zuma has put him in a tighter corner than ever.
Police watch Malema’s home town after clashesPolice remained alert in ANC Youth League president Julius Malema’s hometown of Seshego, in Limpopo, on Thursday (01/03/2012) following overnight clashes between his supporters and detractors.
Baby stolen from Dora Nginza hospitalA MANHUNT has been launched for a bogus student nurse who abducted a three- day-old baby boy from the Dora Nginza Hospital in Port Elizabeth yesterday. (29/02/2012)
Battle for leadership of ANC in Bay hots upWITH three months to go before the ANC in Nelson Mandela Bay elects a new leadership, the race to control the city’s political powerhouse is heating up, with different lists of proposed nominees already doing the rounds.
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Tina [21 February 2011 18:17]
My partner owns a water tank installation business and recently became aware of the possible threat of Hydraulic Fracturing (Fracking) in the Karoo. We watched a very informative yet terrifying documentary about Fracking in USA and are totally opposed to this happening in the Karoo. We also watched Carte Blanche last night (Sunday 21st February) and they were airing a story about fracking in the Karoo too which is why I have contacted you. I am not sure if it helps your campaign or not but here is the link to the documentary which I urge you to introduce to others.
Is there anything I can do personally to play a part in opposing the fracking in Karoo? I am not sure what we can do apart from educating our friends and family but if there is a petition or something else we can do please let us know.
Here is the link below
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1558250/
Best of luck
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Justin Bradfield [12 February 2011 12:20]
As a home owner in the karoo and on the edge of the affected exploration area, i find the government's consideration of this process an afront to the dignity of me and my community. Experiences of fracking the world over have demonstarted that this form of mining is simply devestating to the environment and to communities. The South African governement and Shell are closely bound through profit and seem oblivious to the fact that this mining will devestate the karoo, the countrys last untouched wilderness. Lets remember Mr Zuma that you are maing a deal with the company that murdered Ken Saro Wiwa, the Nigerian human rights activist who boldly stood up to Shell in the Niger delta. Shame on you! When i can no longer drink my tap water because the aquiver under my house is polluted with toxi chemicals, i will come knocking on your door for an explanation.
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ANC councillors killed in crashTHREE ANC councillors died instantly and others were seriously injured when the minibus taxi they were travelling in overturned on the R72 road in Alexandria at the weekend.
Sports Minister in sex scandalMarried Minister of Sport Fikile Mbalula - who last night celebrated his 40th birthday with a lavish party in Pretoria - is embroiled in a nasty spat with a former lover.
Secrets brought to light from lettersTWO projects singled out by Local Government MEC Mlibo Qoboshiyane when he finally made public the Kabuso report yesterday are laid bare in secret letters to political bigwigs and confidential special investigations attached in the report’s annexures.
Another attack at festering ArlingtonANOTHER knife attack has occurred at Arlington Waste Disposal Site. The attack, which took place on Saturday afternoon, comes amid calls by the DA for an investigation into the chaotic state of the site and questionable swopping of contractors.
Schoenies otter takes fishing lessonsIT’S one of the iconic wild animals of the metro’s open spaces, but it’s not often seen - certainly not clambering onto the rocks right under your feet. But that was the experience of fishing buddies Gavin Curtis and Stuart Duckenfield who were trying their luck with light tackle and pilchards at Schoenies yesterday (August 10 2011).
Cause and effect of climate change explainedSO HOW to communicate the complexity and magnitude of climate change to youngsters from a little school in Zwide? The kids, in grades six and seven at Mzimhlophe Primary School, were given the answer to this question during their visit to the SA Marine Rehabilitation and Education Centre (Samrec) yesterday (August 03 2011).
R1.5-million farming venture will fit Eastern Cape to a teaTHE Eastern Cape government has set aside R1.5-million to kick-start an expanded honeybush tea industry that could be ramped up to produce a turnover of R100-million a year and hundreds of new jobs. The good news follows on the results that have emerged from a study of the honeybush industry, commissioned by the Coega Development Corporation (CDC) on behalf of the provincial economic development and environmental affairs department.
Snowed-in guards airlifted to safetyNINETEEN stock-theft guards stationed on the top of the Drakensberg have been plucked to safety as heavy snow presses in on their lonely outposts. The guards are housed alone or in pairs in 10 shipping containers, at key points along the Lesotho border with the north-eastern Eastern Cape, in the Rhodes area.
Algoa Bay the best monitored in all of AfricaALGOA Bay is now “the best monitored bay in Africa” with millions of rands worth of equipment installed below the surface measuring a wide range of environmental conditions. That was the proud revelation yesterday (July 28 2011) from SA Environmental Observation Network (Saeon) co-ordinator Shaun Deyzel, who was speaking at a marine science symposium hosted by SA National Parks, at the Addo Elephant National Parks.
Mantis in new Nigeria dealPORT Elizabeth based tourism group Mantis Collection has announced a bold expansion into West Africa with a landmark, multi-million US dollar deal signed in PE yesterday (July 25 2011) to roll out a sumptuous suite of boutique hotels in Nigeria. Mantis founder Adrian Gardiner signed the deal at Shamwari Townhouse in Summerstrand with highly respected Nigerian businessman Nze Chidi Duru, who is the chairman of Abuja-based Grand Towers Plc. The Nigerian company has interests in the pension, banking, retail, communications, IT and hospitality sectors.
Surf event sets greening benchmarkBILLABONG Pro J-Bay is setting a benchmark for international surfing contests with a comprehensive programme to protect the local environment and combat global climate change.
Karoo farmers take their fracking probe to Jo'burg oil summitA SMALL Karoo farmers’ association is so concerned about fracking, and damning new evidence out of the US, it is funding the R10000 bill demanded for a four-day oil and gas conference in Johannesburg, to allow one of its members to attend.
Swell job for man with decades of experienceWITH the small waves prevailing yesterday (Sunday July 17 2011) for the Billabong Pro J-Bay, all surfing mojos are focused on the second week of the contest and the swell that, it is hoped, will still set things on fire. The man with un-paralleled expertise in this department is contest director Eric Stedman, 54, who has been scanning synoptic charts, fiddling with barometers and assessing wind direction since he was a grommit back in East London in the 1960s. It also helps that he began surfing Jeffreys Bay 43 years ago.
New official whale watching operator launch in the bayALGOA Bay’s first boat-based boat-based whale-watching operation in a decade has been officially launched - and already some exciting sightings are being reported. Lloyd Edwards of Raggy Charters, the company awarded the boat-based whale watching (BBWW) license for Algoa Bay, said yesterday (July 14 2011) he spotted the cow and calf pair of southern right whales off Algorax earlier this week.
Unique source of Bay waterHOW many cities in the world can say they get their water from a World Heritage Site? Very few, I bet. Yet, that’s the case with Port Elizabeth and the Nelson Mandela Bay Municipality and in fact the Gamtoos River Valley vege farmers.
Super surf contest starts at J-BayTHE latest edition of one of the great global surfing contests, built around an iconic right-hand point break, was launched in Jeffreys Bay last night (Wednesday July 14 2011).
Bayworld raggies returned to the oceanTHE biggest baddest pair from Bayworld’s de-commissioned aquarium, two bulky raggedtooth sharks, were released yesterday (July 26 2011) back into the sea. It was a sad day for the oceanarium, where they have lived for nearly two decades, inspiring awe in hundreds of thousands of visitors - but it is good news for the species, as the pair are now part of a research project aimed at securing our waters as one of the few safe havens in the world for raggies.
Unique study of great whitesA UNIQUE study into the abundance, distribution and movement of great white sharks in Algoa Bay, sponsored by the metro, has been launched. There has never been a fatal shark attack in Algoa Bay, but the metro has committed the R800000 grant as a pro-active step, taken in line with their marketing of Port Elizabeth as “the watersports’ capital of Africa”, researcher Dr Matt Dicken explained yesterday (June 21 2011).
Dairy farm could close soonBUSHY Park Dairy Farm, a flagship “proudly Port Elizabeth” business and a much-loved feature of the metro for the past 20 years, is facing closure. The shock news was confirmed yesterday (June 21 2011) by managing trustee Puffer Hartzenberg, who was responding to unconfirmed reports about the matter.
Refurbished Skead book publishedA NEW book aimed at celebrating our natural heritage and guiding sound future conservation policy has been published in Port Elizabeth. Historical Incidence of the Larger Land Mammals in the Broader Western and Northern Cape (including the Eastern Cape as far east as Sundays River) is a complete re-furbishment - with summaries, maps, illustrations and two new chapters - of the original work of the same name by legendary naturalist Dr Jack Skead, who died in 2006.
Co-op sponsors two farmers on US missionTWO Karoo farmers have flown out of PE on a ground-breaking mission to the US, to get the low-down on fracking, in the country where it all began.
Link Refit to electric cars proposalIF WE CAN link Refit with electrical motorcars - then we could really be onto something. Speaking to The Herald yesterday (June 14 2011), department of environmental affairs deputy-director general for climate change, Peter Lukey, said the scheduled launch this month of South Africa’s Renewable Energy Feed-In Tariff (Refit), will likely lead to significant positive change.
Exciting reforestation project underway in TranskeiAN UNUSUAL re-forestation and carbon sequestration project is underway in the heart of the old Transkei, where savage erosion is a common feature. The R7600000 project is being run as a partnership between the Congress of Traditional Leaders’ of South Africa (Contralesa), the national department of environmental affairs and a Johannesburg-based company called Carbon Worx.
Green electricity programme set to launch this monthGOVERNMENT will this month launch the long-awaited Refit programme that will make funding available to pay private energy entrepreneurs who will generate their own green electricity and sell it to the grid.
EC investment boost to counter climate changeEASTERN Cape economic environment MEC Mcebisi Jonas yesterday announced significant new green economy investment to boost green economy skills in the province.
Branch recalls fascinating careerFOR world-renowned reptile and amphibian expert Dr Bill Branch, who retired this week from Bayworld after 32 years employment there - it all began in 1969, on the shores of a lake in East Africa.
EC leads climate change battleTHE Eastern Cape government has declared its intention to lead from the front in the war against climate change, with a landmark multi-benefit project agreement signed at the Eastern Cape Climate Change Conference in East London yesterday (June 08 2011).
Climate change conferenceEVERYONE change - a milestone Eastern Cape climate change conference, featuring senior political leaders and climate change experts, is set to start in East London today (Wednesday May 8). The Eastern Cape Climate Change Conference will focus on the strategy document that has been prepared by local role-players, and will look towards the UN’s Cop17 summit, the international climate change indaba in Durban in December
'Plenty of power for smelter,' says CDCBLACK-out fears notwithstanding, there is more than enough electricity for the megawatt-hungry Coega manganese smelter, according to the Coega Development Corporation (CDC). CDC communications’ chief Senzeni Ndebele was responding this week to concerns expressed about the power demands of the smelter and how this will affect Nelson Mandela Bay Municipality residents and existing businesses.
Motherwell eco-schools big recipientsTWO Motherwell “eco-schools” were the recipients this week of tens of thousands of rands worth of equipment and furniture to help them learn better. The 26 maths and reading software packages, 100 desks and 200 chairs were donated by ABB after the power and automation giant participated last year in a Wessa eco-schools’ workshop in PE.
Pollution plume off the beachfront raises concernsA STRANGE-looking plume of discoloured water has been appearing sporadically in the bay between Shark Rock Pier and Humewood Beach, resulting in a number of calls from concerned residents, Following an initial report on May 20 by Humewood resident Elize Pretorius, and then disappearing for several days, it reappeared again this week, prompting further calls.
Put the environment on agenda of new councils Concerns over Ngqura oil leak 'unfounded'CONCERNS have been raised that the oil and gas exploration rig in Port of Ngqura could be leaking oil into the bay. Both the Norwegian company that owns the ultra-deepwater drilling rig and the harbour authorities have rejected as unfounded the concerns raised by environmental group Ocean Messengers.
Ball of fire not the beginning of the end.Was it a bird? Was it a plane? Was it a comet hurtling to Earth in delayed fulfillment of Harold Campling’s doomsday prophesy? Well, no. In fact, it was the International Space Station (ISS) and space shuttle Endeavour, catching the last rays of the setting sun.
Ngqura a fish magnetTHE Port of Ngqura has become an extraordinary magnet for marine life, and could point the way to an important new role for harbours, according to Bayworld marine biologist and shark specialist Dr Matt Dicken.
Stately emperor pays family a flying visitTHERE are moths and there are moths - and then there is the pine tree emperor, one of the giants of the insect world. Gorgeous yellow in colour and “easily the size of a man’s hand”, one of these moths swooped into a Seaview home the other night.
Endangered forest clearing probedA SWATHE of critically endangered forest and new generation legislation formulated to combat climate change are at the centre of a confrontation in Deer Park. The forestry department has slammed as “reckless and malicious” the clearing of the area, which is over 100m long by on average 4m wide.
Male in search of good life turns up at beachfrontHE WAS a prickly customer - but in the end he came quietly. It was Patrick Mange, the cleaner and gardener at beachfront flatblock Bandle, next to the Beach Hotel, who found him.
EC operators performs strongly at IndabaTHE Eastern Cape has fared well at the Indaba tourism conference and expo in Durban, taking gold in two different categories in the main Welcome awards and only just falling short in the Eteya emerging tourism operators’ awards. The Welcome Awards winners are both from PE and are both family-owned businesses: the Plantation, the wedding, functions’ and accommodation venue on the Sardinia Bay road, and Economic Cars and Bakkies, the 20-year-old Walmer-based car rental firm.
NMMU microscope a global break-throughNMMU has been catapulted into the forefront of nanoscience research with the arrival of a state-of-the-art custom-built microscope from Japan. The high resolution transmission electron microscope (HRTEM) is the first of its kind that has been sold commercially outside of Japan and the last of a suite of four electron microscopes, costing a total R90-million, that have arrived in the past week from Tokyo manufacturer JEOL and a second manufacturer in The Netherlands.
'Port guards like the Stasi'FOREIGN tourists yesterday compared guards at the Port Elizabeth Harbour to the dreaded Stazi security police of East Germany, following an incident in which their driver was manhandled, forcibly detained and then bundled off to Humewood Police Station. The incident happened yesterday morning as the tourists, a group of five Russians and a Belgian, were about to enter the harbour at its southern entrance, headed for a day diving excursion in Algoa Bay with local dive company Expert-Tours.
How to rejuvenate Baakens River ValleyI WAS chatting to permaculture activist and leading member of Transition Network PE Naomi Suzane the other day, and she came with a great idea of how to secure, rejuvenate and celebrate the Baakens Valley. We kicked her idea around, and this is how it turned out.
Dad's call following son's deathSIMON Swart started drugging in his early teens and he had been through 15 rehabilitation centres before he died, alone in his room in a backpacker lodge in Central, a fortnight ago. But there was much more to this young man.
Nuclear moratorium callTHE concern group challenging the Thyspunt nuclear reactor has called on government to place a moratorium on all nuclear development in South Africa until the full extent of the Fukushima disaster is known. The call by the Thyspunt Alliance - a broad coalition of residential, cultural, environmental, tourism, fisheries, business and surfing interests in the Oyster Bay, St Francis, Humansdorp and Jeffrey’s Bay area - co-incides with the 25th anniversary of Chernobyl, the historic nuclear melt-down in Ukraine.
Major show jumping event scheduled for PEPORT Elizabeth has been named as a host city for a world show-jumping championship qualifier event, sparking great excitement in the show-jumping fraternity, and the promise of an energising mid-Winter injection of tourist revenue. The event will be attracting the country’s top jumpers, so it is being celebrated in horsey circles - but it is much more than that, event co-ordinator Tanya Radke said yesterday.
Oceanarium seals readied for departureHOW do you transport eight seals to Pretoria? That’s the preoccupation right now of Bayworld’s oceanarium team, as the relocation of their animals moves ahead.
Chumming fines co-incide with issuing of whale permitNELSON Mandela Bay Municipality has issued four fines to marine tourism operator Lloyd Edwards related to the controversial chumming incident off Humewood Beach last month. The issuing of the fines at the Port Elizabeth beach office on Friday co-incides with the issuing this week of the long-awaited boat-based whale watching (BBWW) license for Algoa Bay - to Edwards.
Farewell (for now) to Bayworld oceanariumBAYWORLD’S oceanarium is set to close at the end of this month to prepare for the de-commissioning of the 43-year-old dolphin pool and the transfer of 24 penguins and nine seals to Pretoria Zoo. It’s all part of “operation stop the bleed” in which Port Elizabeth’s much loved museum and oceanarium complex has had to make some tough decisions in order to deliver, hopefully, long-term bounty.
Get out the Karoo, farmers tell ShellANGRY residents of the Middleburg area have called for Shell to “get out the Karoo” after the company failed to guarantee the security of their water if fracking goes ahead. Addressing Shell representatives at a hall in Middelburg’s Grootfontein Agricultural College in a hall packed with farmers in T-shirts saying “Don’t Frack with our Karoo,” members of the audience asked repeatedly if the multi-national could “guarantee no risk to our water”.
Radio activity comtamination concern surfaces around fracking planKAROO anti-frackers are calling for the authorities to take note of the latest findings in America that fracking could be contaminating drinking water supplies with radio activity. The findings stem from an investigation by the New York Times and were reported in that newspaper on Friday. The findings include that waste water produced by fracking wells often absorbs radio activity from naturally occurring minerals underground like uranium.
Nieu Bethesda farmers count flood costsIT COULD take some farmers in Nieu Bethesda a decade to get back to where they were before the flood that hit them Saturday. That’s the word from the mountainous catchment area north of Graaff-Reinet, where well over 100mm of rain fell in 24 hours, flooding the Gats River and all its tributaries, flattening stock fences, stripping roads to bedrock and bursting farm dams.
Give this man Derrick Hannekom a BELLS....
thirsty 1 March 2012 11:19 amWhat a great day, today I drink Champagne !!!!!!!...
BrandGat 1 March 2012 6:27 amGreat news for the country bad boy Malema aka 'JuJu' has been given his marching orders,that`s one obstacle out the way....
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BrandGat 29 February 2012 7:03 amGood work by Nomusa Mnguni at The refuse department NMMU clearing our Refuse overlooked by the truck on Monday. Give that man a Bells!...
BrandGat 27 February 2012 12:29 pmWALMER SHACKS BURNING! Why is the ANC not doing anything for these people who stoically vote for them each election only to be let down again and again.The housing fiasco is getting very circus like!...
White Settler 25 February 2012 8:35 amYou are only guilty(corrupt) if you have been caught and exposed and sentenced. IF the people who are policing this exposing and sentencing are also corrupt then no one is corrupt. We therefor do not ...
White Settler 25 February 2012 8:35 amYou are only guilty(corrupt) if you have been caught and exposed and sentenced. IF the people who are policing this exposing and sentencing are also corrupt then no one is corrupt. We therefor do not ...
dokhotelo 23 February 2012 9:47 pm...Mathale says his province leads the nation in good financial record keeping.........Zuma says South Africa is the only country with a program to fight corruption.......... HA HA HA HA......no wonde...
dokhotelo 23 February 2012 8:59 pm.......HA HA HA HA HA.........Trying to find out the real age of the ANC by looking for the origins of the "predator" genes !!!!!!!...................